Isn't this nice.!

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Isn't this nice.!

#1 Post by dabarry » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:07 pm

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Photo courtesy of boxer 1949 Belfast Forum.

The story behind this is a Man and a Woman, of differing religions, wanted to be buried together.
Their Relatives insisted they be buried in their respective Graveyards, so they buried them next
to the wall, and built these Headstones.

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#2 Post by greengreengrass » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:23 pm

Love it dabarry.....though you have me worried now in case my lot decide to do that......it's a long way from St.Peter's on the Upr Dromore Rd to Clonallon Graveyard! ;) :-(

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#3 Post by Dragonfly » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:59 pm

This is in Holland this grave.

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#4 Post by dabarry » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:39 am

This photo was passed to me by a friend,
I had no idea of the location.

Being something of a Romantic, I was
looking at it from that angle, but there
is also a certain symbolic element as well.

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#5 Post by StLouisGuy » Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:34 am

Bingo, Dragonfly. You are right!
GGG you were right too about the "Why".

In the Protestant part of this cemetery, J.W.C van Gorcum, colonel of the Dutch Cavalry and militia commissioner in Limburg, is buried. His wife, lady J.C.P.H van Aefferden, is buried in the Catholic part. They were married in 1842, the lady was 22 and the colonel was 33, but he was a protestant and didn't belong to the nobility.
This caused quite a commotion in Roermond. After being married for 38 years, the colonel died in 1880 and was buried in the protestant part of the cemetery against the wall. His wife died in 1888 and had decided not to be buried in the family tomb but on the other side of the wall, which was the closest she could get to her husband. Two clasped hands connect the graves across the wall. (Source) http://www.oddee.com/item_98582.aspx

And Tony, yep. A certain romantic and symbolic element too.

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#6 Post by xpaddy » Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:39 pm

Thanks for adding that piece of
information to the original post.
That was a nice way to solve the
problem.

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#7 Post by dabarry » Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:51 pm

Pat : Nice piece of research. :clapping:

Good to know the version given
to me was accurate.

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#8 Post by StLouisGuy » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:01 am

Thanks. Glad to help.

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#9 Post by greengreengrass » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:58 pm

Most interesting StLouisGuy................maybe we should start a thread on Headstones with a Difference! Isn't there one in Co. Monaghan somewhere that's inscribed 'Here lies the body of .. ...can't remember the name....who died once, but was buried twice?!' I seem to remember the old reporter guy, Charles Witherspoon, doing a BBC programme about it years ago. Wealthy lady, buried wearing a valuable ring, grave robbers come, couldn't get it off her hand, tried to cut off her finger and she screamed etc. Maybe I should've Googled it first......but I'll leave that to somebody else! :-C ;)

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#10 Post by dabarry » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:12 pm

greengreengrass wrote:Most interesting StLouisGuy................maybe we should start a thread on Headstones with a Difference! Isn't there one in Co. Monaghan somewhere that's inscribed 'Here lies the body of .. ...can't remember the name....who died once, but was buried twice?!' I seem to remember the old reporter guy, Charles Witherspoon, doing a BBC programme about it years ago. Wealthy lady, buried wearing a valuable ring, grave robbers come, couldn't get it off her hand, tried to cut off her finger and she screamed etc. Maybe I should've Googled it first......but I'll leave that to somebody else! :-C ;)


ggg - Pat's link above will show a few,
I'm sure there are lots more.

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#11 Post by StLouisGuy » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:17 pm

Aha! Another piece of sleuthing for me. I love it. Have put it on my list.

:| :-):-)

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#12 Post by greengreengrass » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:00 am

StLouisGuy wrote:Aha! Another piece of sleuthing for me. I love it. Have put it on my list.

:| :-):-)
:lazy: Good man...........I haven't the patience! :lazy:

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#13 Post by StLouisGuy » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:35 am

GGG, Here is the one you mentioned. http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/gra ... 26086.html

More info on Marjorie's adventures. http://www.lurganancestry.com/mmccall.htm
Looks like Shankill cemetery in Lurgan.

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#14 Post by Marion » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:23 am

Fascinating stuff. I seem to remember when we lived in Surrey an English friend told us that someone was buried upside down on nearby Box Hill for some reason.

The same friend arrived here on a visit some years ago, took one look at the Mournes and said,"ah, now I see why you were not impressed by Box Hill!" :getmecoat:

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#15 Post by greengreengrass » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:24 pm

StLouisGuy wrote:GGG, Here is the one you mentioned. http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/gra ... 26086.html

More info on Marjorie's adventures. http://www.lurganancestry.com/mmccall.htm
Looks like Shankill cemetery in Lurgan.
Thanks for that StLouisGuy......makes for very interesting reading.......don't know why I thought it was in Monaghan.
Must have a look for the headstone next time I'm in Lurgan. :--)

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#16 Post by dabarry » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:41 pm

Speaking of unusal Headstones, came
across this one...familar name.

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#17 Post by xpaddy » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:36 am

Tony - I would think that would be very
appropriate.

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