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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:16 pm 
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David Quail wrote this for a newspaper story of his life. Does this sound feasible for something actually happening in Warrenpoint in the early 1800's?
David died in 1892 in New York

David Quail was born in 1817 in the north of lreland, Provence of Ulster, County of Down, Parish of Glenn Allen, near Warren's Point. He was the fifth of six children of Thomas and Susan Quail, who were strict adherers to the Episcopal Creed.
At the time ,his father,Thomas Quail, worked at Mount Hall, at that time occupied by a Hall sent by the English government as overseer or officer of Northern Ireland. The Quail sons also worked here. David Quail said he was a foster brother of the son of Mr. Hall of Hall Mansion. Your Grandfather was not related to him legally or by blood but they both were nursed at the same breast (David Quail’s mother)
He was left an orphan at the early age of six years (1823), at which time a severe struggle with the world began. At the time of his parents death there were very few schools in the district and the landlords dld all in their power to keep their infants in ignorance, but luckily for the poor oppressed tenants, the Methodist revivalists shortly made their appearance, coming from where no one knew, preaching a strange and startling doctrine to the poor people. The outcome of these revivals was the establishment of church and parish schools, which held sessions Sunday afternoons only, and were taught by the good ladies of the Parish. At one of these, David Quail received his first scrap of education, attending until he could proudly say, "I know all my letters," after which he was called to the Parish Church to learn the Catechism and receive other instructions. He then attended the Warren's Point Sunday School which was devoted to the Bible and text book study. At this school he was compelled to pay a tuition of two cents a week.
Next he acted in the capacity of a market gardener until he reached the age of sixteen, (1833) when he took to the sea as an avocation


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:51 am 
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Hi Bill, like many newspaper articles of that time a certain amount of poetic license has been used - Just to clarify, the Hall family actually bought Mount Hall (Known as Narrow Water castle) in the late 1600's and where in fact also instrumental in the building of Warrenpoint. Far from "oppressing" anyone they opened schools and employed many locals on the estate, It is true that local schools were thin on the ground but probably as the population in 1821 was only 148. A Wesleyan Chapel (Methodist) was built in Church street in 1793 so they were also here before the dates in the article. As for him attending the Sunday schools I would have no reason to doubt that but obviously he would not have been paying cents as they were not used here but I imagine a fee would have been payable until the establishment of the national schools in 1848. History shows that in other areas of Ireland landlords were indeed oppressive but from what we know this area escaped most of that oppression, indeed it is from Warrenpoint that many of the infamous "famine ships" set sail for America and Canada.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:18 pm 
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Brian,
Have you that booklet by the Rev. Hutton?,,"Across the Narrow Water"?
While this is First Presbyterian (Non-Subscribing) Church, established 1707, I think it actually began at Narrow Water, and included across the lough too?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:21 pm 
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PS
Would Glen Allan be Clonallen? Didn't you show a map that showed Allen??


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