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Macdonald Ross

#1 Post by candidate » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:00 pm

Iam very lucky to own a large MacDonald Ross, the usual seascape of course does anyone know anything about him
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#2 Post by mcelaura » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:59 am

candidate wrote:Iam very luck to own a large MacDonald ross
the usual seascape of course does anyone know anything about
him
He lived in the stone house at the back entrance to Hall's estate
on the Mount Road, Warrenpoint. (It is all renovated now). Ross
McDonald Ross spent a lot of his time in the Roxboro in Rostrevor,
that is where I saw him last. He is dead now some years. I know
of a few of his paintings in the area as he was prone to giving
them as wedding presents. Some of those that I have seen had
been valued at £700 twenty years ago. His work is very
distinctive and you are lucky to have one.

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#3 Post by StLouisGuy » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:46 am

Hi Candidate and welcome to OldWarrenpoint. I found something about Ross-McDonald, posted by his grandson who is researching his family history.

"My name is Donald MacDonald-Ross, and I have been doing genealogy for the last few years as a hobby, mostly researching ancestors and relatives in Ireland and Scotland.

My paternal grandfather, Ross MacDonald Ross, was born in 1891 to a farming family at Lower Arboll in Tarbat Parish, at the eastern end of the County of Ross and Cromarty. My second cousins still live on the family farm there, which has been occupied by our Ross family at least back to the late 1820s.

Grandfather's father, Andrew Ross, married in 1870 at Arboll to Chirsty MacDonald, one of three sisters who came from Reiff in the Coigach District of Lochbroom Parish, at the far west of Ross and Cromarty. A well worn path from west to east, an aunt of the sisters had already settled in Tarbat Parish at Balintore.

Chirsty's forename shows up in records as "Chirsty", "Christy", or "Christina". Cursty, sometimes spelled Ciorstaig is a common gaelic name especially on the west coast, and the family at Arboll maintained communication with the Reiff MacDonalds through the first decades of the 20th century.

Grandfather spent summers with his cousins at Reiff as a child. He later became a well known landscape artist in Ireland, but some of his earliest known paintings were of Coigach. "

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~coigach/

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#4 Post by candidate » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:08 pm

mcelaura wrote:
candidate wrote:Iam very luck to own a large MacDonald ross
the usual seascape of course does anyone know anything about
him
He lived in the stone house at the back entrance to Hall's estate
on the Mount Road, Warrenpoint. (It is all renovated now). Ross
McDonald Ross spent a lot of his time in the Roxboro in Rostrevor,
that is where I saw him last. He is dead now some years. I know
of a few of his paintings in the area as he was prone to giving
them as wedding presents. Some of those that I have seen had
been valued at £700 twenty years ago. His work is very
distinctive and you are lucky to have one.
Thank you for your reply, actually we had three, my two brothers got smaller ones each and I the larger one, which is a view of the south across the lough, I would think from a bit east of Rostrevor. It is 14"x19" and framed 22"x28". He I think sold them to my mum and dad for mum thinks £15 in 1955/56 as he needed some tyres for his car, he said.
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#5 Post by dukestreet » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:07 pm

There was a couple of MacDonald Ross paintings in The Central Cafe in Church St.
The late MacDonald Ross was a customer of that splendid Cafe, back in the 1960's.

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#6 Post by Brian » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:52 pm

He was an art teacher in Newry Grammar School (now the SELB building opposite the GPO on the Belfast road in Newry) around the mid 50's. as for selling things, my folks say he was always doing things like that, so it would not have surprised me that the pictures in the central café may just have been as payment for a years meals :lol: I wonder were those pictures went?

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#7 Post by dukestreet » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:34 pm

I knew the granddaughters of MacDonald Ross, they came to stay with him at the Mount Road in the summer of 1967. Ben Byrne,(R.I.P.) David Duffy, Collie Sherry and myself were very friendly with them, and they came to The Osborne with us, actually if I am being totally honest, we met them inside.
They were named Cherry, Deirdre and Laura, and they lcamr from Jordanstown.
I think Deirdre became a doctor, I have a funny feeling I met her in the Royal in Belfast about 30 years ago, but it's all a bit misty. The old memory is not what it on the Mount Road, for a Wine and Cheese party.
In those days I knew as much about Wine and Cheese as a pig knows about Sunday.
Nowadays I have improved, if only marginally.

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#8 Post by candidate » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:47 pm

I can not find a site or any internet info on him or his paintings is it just me, does anyone know of an internet site on him.
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#9 Post by don_niagara » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:00 am

candidate wrote:I can not find a site or any internet info on him or his paintings is it just me, does anyone know of an interner site on him.
Hiya,

I'll try to attach a scan of one of grandfather's paintings, first posting so hope it works!

all the best from Niagara,

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#10 Post by whitestar » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:34 am

WOW ! ....I really like the style of this painting. It's beautiful.

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#11 Post by StLouisGuy » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:31 am

Thank you Don Niagara for this beautiful example of your grandfather's work. Are you the Donald whom I quoted in an earlier post here? You can see that your grandfather is still remembered in Warrenpoint.

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#12 Post by Liz » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:58 am

Thanks so much for that don_niagara, wonderful, any chance you inherited your grandfathers talent for painting?

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#13 Post by the gap » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:46 am

candidate wrote:Iam very lucky to own a large MacDonald Ross, the usual seascape of course does anyone know anything about him
Hi Tom any chance of you posting a photo of the painting.

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#14 Post by xpaddy » Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:56 pm

don_niagara - lovely painting of your grandfather's work.
It looks like we might be neighbours - we live in the Niagara area as well.
Grew up in Warrenpoint but emigrated over 40 years ago.
You mentioned shingling are you a roofer? ;--)

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#15 Post by don_niagara » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:55 pm

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#16 Post by bornandbred » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:02 pm

He looks quite the dashing young man!

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#17 Post by don_niagara » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:31 pm

mcelaura wrote:He lived in the stone house at the back entrance to Hall's estate
on the Mount Road, Warrenpoint. (It is all renovated now).
Grandfather made a napkin holder for the table, each side a bit of masonite with a painting, I have one of those two pics attached. At his time no "modern conveniences", but a magical atmosphere.

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#18 Post by don_niagara » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:44 pm

mcelaura wrote: I know of a few of his paintings in the area as he was prone to giving
them as wedding presents.
As well as paintings at weddings he also at least once gave away a bride. The night before had been a round of wild partying, with more than a few drinks taken by the wedding party, and a few stern words passed back and forth in drunken anger.

Standing by the bride he remarked sotto voce to her how hansome the groom appeared coming up the aisle. She snarled back out of the corner of her mouth; "I'm not talking to that felah!!!"

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#19 Post by don_niagara » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:11 pm

candidate wrote:[
Thank you for your reply, actually we had three, my two brothers got smaller ones each and I the larger one, which is a view of the south across the lough, I would think from a bit east of Rostrevor. It is 14"x19" and framed 22"x28". He I think sold them to my mum and dad for mum thinks £15 in 1955/56 as he needed some tyres for his car, he said.
Har! He was a good provider for his family, had a car and radio before many in the Mournes, but not infrequently through the barter system. It was not unusual for him to return from a sketching trip into the Mournes with a box of eggs, or chickens.

During WW2 he had a government job visiting remote hill farmers in the Mournes, determining their eligability for a government grant. Of course in the car were his easal and sketch pads. Someone later asked him, "how did you determine who was eligable?"

He replied, "Simple, I approved everyone!"

...

Is the scene you have similar to the attached?






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#20 Post by don_niagara » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:46 pm

dukestreet wrote:I knew the granddaughters of MacDonald Ross, they came to stay with him at the Mount Road in the summer of 1967. Ben Byrne,(R.I.P.) David Duffy, Collie Sherry and myself were very friendly with them, and they came to The Osborne with us, actually if I am being totally honest, we met them inside.
They were named Cherry, Deirdre and Laura, and they lcamr from Jordanstown.
I think Deirdre became a doctor, I have a funny feeling I met her in the Royal in Belfast about 30 years ago, but it's all a bit misty. The old memory is not what it on the Mount Road, for a Wine and Cheese party.
In those days I knew as much about Wine and Cheese as a pig knows about Sunday.
Nowadays I have improved, if only marginally.
Just off the phone to cousin Laura a few minutes ago, after many years in Canada she and her family moved a decade ago back to N.I., Deirdre is senior labtech at a hospital in Scotland, if I am correct her husband comes from a Warrenpoint family. "Sherry" *might* be their cousin through their father, growing up on other sides of the Atlantic I only occasionally met cousins of cousins. Or perhaps the "Sherry" you recall was my sister Sheila, we were back and forth a number of times to Ireland in the late 60s, early 70s, including Warrenpoint.

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#21 Post by don_niagara » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:57 pm

StLouisGuy wrote:Thank you Don Niagara for this beautiful example of your grandfather's work. Are you the Donald whom I quoted in an earlier post here? You can see that your grandfather is still remembered in Warrenpoint.
Hiya!

Yes that is my page, no file there specifically on grandfather, as focus of my page is the district his mother came from, Coigach.

Very heartwarming to see him still remembered at Warrenpoint.

All the best,

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#22 Post by xpaddy » Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:02 am

don_niagara - another lovely painting by your grandfather. :|

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#23 Post by don_niagara » Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:00 am

Liz wrote:Thanks so much for that don_niagara, wonderful, any chance you inherited your grandfathers talent for painting?
Har har, NOPE!

There are a number of artists in the family, but not me. I have small mechanistic ability that has aided me in renovations, draughting plans for building permit applications, and draughting applications to extend lines of credit at the bank.

Dad is a natural artist, besides the aid of having his father as advisor he studied art in Belfast and Dublin (Grandfather studied under the founder of the Glasgow School of Art, Charles Rhennie MacIntosh). He considered a career in art like grandfather, and sold several paintings aboard the ship to Canada in 1952. I'll attach a few scans from one of his sketchpads from the late '40s, early 50s.

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#24 Post by don_niagara » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:08 am

xpaddy wrote:don_niagara - lovely painting of your grandfather's work.
It looks like we might be neighbours - we live in the Niagara area as well.
Grew up in Warrenpoint but emigrated over 40 years ago.
You mentioned shingling are you a roofer? ;--)
Hiya xpaddy,

Lived many years at Niagara Falls, with the thunder a few blocks away lulling me to sleep, but about fifteen years ago moved to the neighbouring city of Thorold, still part of the Niagara Region, but more central given St. Catharines is the population center.

I am a self employed renovater, company name "Renovate Now!", business mostly repeat and referral customers, so no advertising costs over the last decade, business mostly additions and renovations. Depending on the contract I hire on different workers, and am currently ripping and replacing a roof in Thorold, very steep 12:12 slope with four dormers none of my guys are safety rated for, so I am the person up top reprising the Sylvestor Stalone role from the movie Cliffhanger with ropes and lanyards at the corner of Pine and Richmond.

Here is a photo of me a few decades ago on the roof of the log home I renovated at Kirkfield.



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#25 Post by xpaddy » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:10 pm

don_niagara - you live in Thorold - it's a stone throw from us. We live in St. Catharines.
My husband Don has a small construction business, mostly commercial but he has done
renovating (residential) in the past. I don't recognise the name of your business, but
I'm sure my husband will know. You've probably crossed paths at one time.
It's a small world.
Love your grandfather's paintings.
Be careful on those roofs. #:-S

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#26 Post by northbrook » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:27 pm

Xpaddy, is St.Catharines where that road bridge keeps going up up up...................that`s a scary drive.................

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#27 Post by xpaddy » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:19 am

Northbrook - There is the Garden City Skyway in St. Catharines that goes over the
Welland Canal but I don't know if that is the one you are thinking of.
It would probably be 150' at the highest point.
There is another one Burlington Skyway about the same height but the incline is
steeper. We would cross this going to Toronto.
I remember you saying you were in Oakville and I think this might be the one you
are thinking of.
Will take a picture of the Garden City one and post it. :|

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#28 Post by northbrook » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:04 am

Thanks xpaddy, your lose the horizon very quickly which gives you the feeling your flying, not for the faint hearted.........

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#29 Post by silveryfox » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:45 pm

don_niagara wrote:
candidate wrote:[
Thank you for your reply, actually we had three, my two brothers got smaller ones each and I the larger one, which is a view of the south across the lough, I would think from a bit east of Rostrevor. It is 14"x19" and framed 22"x28". He I think sold them to my mum and dad for mum thinks £15 in 1955/56 as he needed some tyres for his car, he said.
Har! He was a good provider for his family, had a car and radio before many in the Mournes, but not infrequently through the barter system. It was not unusual for him to return from a sketching trip into the Mournes with a box of eggs, or chickens.

During WW2 he had a government job visiting remote hill farmers in the Mournes, determining their eligability for a government grant. Of course in the car were his easal and sketch pads. Someone later asked him, "how did you determine who was eligable?"

He replied, "Simple, I approved everyone!"

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Is the scene you have similar to the attached?

Donald.
Hi Donald

I'm Candidate's brother and (strangely enough!) his picture is very similar to that. My other brother and I have smaller paintings of streams/bridges - when I get a moment I'll post mine and ask the forum members about the location.

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#30 Post by candidate » Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:58 am

Here is a bad photo but at the moment it is the only one I have

Link http://www.arcadja.com/auctions/en/ross ... st/351435/
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