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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:57 pm 
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A number of years ago Andy Eccles spent a bit of time in the records office in Armagh, where he copied down extracts’ of minutes and information from the original documents of the then town commissioners (and later town councils) from various dates between 1882 and just after the war.
Andy hand wrote this information and he managed to fill quite a few pages that I have now scanned and I am going to type out the information from those pages over the next few weeks and post them here.
We start back in 1882:

LA71/2B/i

Minute Book of the Town Commissioners Warrenpoint 31st July 1882 – 12th December 1882 (Extracts)

First meeting held in board room Monday 31st July 1882, Commissioners had been elected on Saturday 29th of July.
Allen Douglas MD elected Chairman for 1 year, and Bernard McKenna appointed Clerk to Commission.
The rotation of commissioners going out of office (by ballot) was:
1st year – James McMurray, Hugh Montgomery, RA Jones & Patrick Cunningham
2nd year – Hugh McConville, John Courtney, Peter Crawford & GW Francis
3rd year – George McAteer, Thomas McMurray, Thomas O’Hare & Allen Douglas

Monthly Meeting 7th August 1882:
“That steps be taken to procure a slaughter house at Warrenpoint”
Committees for Sanitary, Finance and Lighting are set up.

Special Meeting 16th August 1882:
“That the streets of Warrenpoint be lit up”

Special Meeting 21st August 1882:
That all the lamps be put out at 11pm except six situated on the highway leading from Newry to Rostrevor, and those six are to burn until 5.00am

Monthly Meeting 11th September 1882:
“That the clerk’s salary be £20 sterling a year”
Unanimously resolved that a town Sergeant be appointed.

Special Meeting 4 October 1882:
“The estimate of £4 for lighting the lamp on the square for the period 10 October – 1st of March was adopted”

Special Meeting 8th October 1882:
A rate of 6 pence in the pound was struck

Meeting 6th November 1882:
The gas directors proposed to supply the lamp on the square with gas at the rate of 6/8 per 1000 foot calculated by a meter.
The market house (with its weight beams etc) on the square is taken over by the commissioners from the market committee, and motion passed to purchase a weighing machine from messrs A Smith & Sons of Glasgow.
Letters were ordered to be sent to agents of property in Church Street and other parties directing their attention to chimneys which appear to endanger public safety.

Meeting 13th November 1882
Mr R Grundy was appointed town Sergeant and rate Collector. His office to be in market house. On duty from the 1st of December at £30 Per annum. Mr Mahood is to remain in charge of the market house.

Special meeting 12th December 1882:
“That the 3 ton weigh bridge be ordered from Messrs Smith and Sons Glasgow and be erected at once.

(More to follow.......)


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1st January 1883
“That the chairman and clerk be asked to go as a deputation to Kingstown and other watering places on the Dublin coast for the purposes of making a report on the improvements found there for the information and guidance of this board”

19th January 1883
The site for the sheep fair was fixed from the corner of Church Street to the corner of Post Office street. (This was a change and placards were to be erected with “Cow Fair” “Horse Fair” and “Sheep Fair”

31st January 1883
That the market house and weigh bridge be left for market purposes only for 12 months. Mr Glenny of Dock Street to rent it for £4

7th May 1883
Licenses for slaughter houses were granted to David Ward, William Ward and Patrick Higgins. (It was also reported that Higgins lost the license from Monday 11th June – no reason given.)

9th July 1883
“That we get 30 lamps and order them from Mr Lucas” Gas at 5/10 per 1000 cubic feet, and lamps and lampposts at 48/6 each was approved on the 20th July. Mr Lucas to supply same at 48/6 each.

6 August (Annual meeting)
Chairman re-elected for a year. “It was agreed that the first person or persons found wheeling trucks, wheel barrows or driving tricycles or bicycles on the footpath will be summoned”

17th Sept
Mr Henning got the contract to erect the 30 lamps at 6/9 each

21st Nov 1883
The tender for cleaning, lighting and extinguishing the gas lamps was awarded to Michael Waters at £1 per month. His duties to terminate on the 31st of March 1884
24th November 1883
Board ordered that the 25 lamps then finished be lighted that evening at sunset (Saturday)

3 December 1883
Rate of six pence in the pound was struck. Dr Douglas resigned as chairman and Mr George W Francis was elected till the next annual meeting. (He was eventually replaced by William Johnson of Duke Street)


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:28 pm 
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Excellent Brian, great account of the early days of Warrenpoint, and well done Andy Eccles for doing the research .............................


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thanks, but there is lots more to come :D All the way through to 1964 to be exact - it's going to take a while as I have to type it all out as the OCR software I have while pretty good at scanning text, makes that many mistakes with handwriting it's quicker for me to type it :-C


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Brian wrote:
thanks, but there is lots more to come :D All the way through to 1964 to be exact - it's going to take a while as I have to type it all out as the OCR software I have while pretty good at scanning text, makes that many mistakes with handwriting it's quicker for me to type it :-C


Well get on with it , the more time you spend in here things will never be done :getmecoat: :--)


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11th February 1884:
Mr Joseph Glenny’s tender of £10-5-0 for the market house & Weigh bridge was accepted (Mahood’s was £10)

10th March 1884:
“The injury to the lamp at back sea view was considered and it was agreed to that the sum of £2 as a reward for such evidence as may lead to a conviction of the guilty party” 25 posters on this to be got.

7th May 1884
On the application of Michael Waters the lamp lighter, the clerk was allowed to give him two shillings and six pence in lieu of matches consumed by him during the season.

20th June
That the poor guardians be asked to remove the fountain at the foot of duke street to a suitable place in the square next to the pump, and that a water trough be added for the purpose of allowing horses to drink.

18 August 1884:
Ten new gas lamps (additional) are approved. M waters retained as lighter on same terms.

6 October 1884:
That the sheep fair be changed to the square & also the horse fair be changed from its present site to Charlotte Street from McCourtneys corner to the front of that street and so far down the Newry road as necessary. And the hurdles be provided for the sheep fair, if possible for the December fair next.

20 October:
First meeting of the new board George W Francis appointed chairman for 12 months Committee set up re planting trees in principal streets.

1 December 1884
Rate of 6d in the pound struck. M Waters asked for and got an increase to 25/- for extra lights


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12th January 1885
Reward of 20/- for conviction of those who recently broke lamps offered
4th May
Mrs Lindsay bathing boxes £7-15-0

8th June 1885
Decided to unite offices of town sergeant, rate collector and sanitary sub officer with that of weigh master. Salary £15 pa. Wellington Barton got job 22 June, Dismissed 5th August. M Waters or some other eligible persons to take charge of the Weigh Bridge & market house at present.

31st August 1885
William Cowan appointed town sergeant, rate collector and sanitary sub officer. (Vacant 1st Feb 1886) Joseph Glenning appointed market house and weigh bridge 7th September

9th November 1885
G.W Francis re-elected to chair for following year. Gas Company threatened to cut off gas if lighting and extinguishing was not handed over to them. Had complained earlier that they were not lit on time, sometimes not lit or not fully on.

16th November 1885
Gas Company take over the lighting of the 36 lights at January 1st.

7th December 1885
Rate struck of 6d in the pound


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Great stuff here Brian, i see Old Mick Waters name there Dodds once told me he worked on the weigh bridge his father (nab) had told him of this great memory Dodds :-):-)


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24 January 1887
Rate of 6d in the pound struck

4th July 1887
Mr Flemings’ design for a new fountain on the promenade costing £7-18-6 was accepted

(Town hall opened August 1887?)

29 August 1887
Glenny got market house again at £7 (but died April 1888)

28 November 1887
Francis elected chairman again

31st December 1887
6d rate struck again

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13th February 1888
A slaughter house license granted to William Ward on the square on condition that he guarantee that it will be drained (into the sewers)

14th May 1888
That the clerk should write to the MP for south down in reference to his asking a question in the house of commons why passengers are prohibited from landing for Warrenpoint south of the old castle at Narrow Water

6th August 1888
The waterworks were transferred from the guardians of Newry Union to the Warrenpoint commissioners.

5th November 1888
Francis chairman for another year

3 December 1888
A water rate of 1/- in the pound struck for year ending Sept 1889



4 February 1889
Licenses were ordered to be given for the licensing of Dan Wards, William Wards and William Kings premises’ as slaughter houses for one year. The fee to be 5/-

6 May 1889
James Kelly takes over the market house at £11 (£1 reduction – he asked for £2)

3rd June 1889
License for slaughter house to Philip Hughes of Church street.

14th June 1889
Message of sympathy sent to Armagh & Lurgan re railway disaster.

4th November 1889
W. Francis once more elected chairman
Rate of 7d in the pound and water rate of 1/- was struck


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5th May 1890
Present tenants of market house and bathing boxes retained.

3rd November 1890
W Francis elected chairman
Rates of 8d in the pound and 1/- in the pound for water struck. Scales and weights formally used at the market house to be sold by public auction.

4th May 1891
James Kelly gets market house for another year

2nd November 1891

Francis again elected chairman.

11 February 1892
Rates of 8d in the pound and 1/- in the pound for water struck.

6th June 1892
Kelly again gets market house at £6

3 October 1892
W John Lewis’s resignation accepted

7th November 1892
John F Greene elected chairman

16 January 1893

Rates of 8d in the pound and 1/- in the pound for water struck.

27th February 1893

After many requests by the Warrenpoint car men, it was resolved “that in future no new licenses shall be granted to any person living outside the town boundary”

3rd April 1893
“That a watering cart be purchased from barrows and co Banbury” John McCourt got tender for horsing it at 3/6 for the season. Kelly again gets market house and weigh bridge for £6

22nd May 1893
Miss McGuffin won the tender for bathing boxes £6-15-0. Up to this point Mrs Lindsay had them – she did not tender. John McCoy won tender in connection with watering the streets, subject to his signing an agreement fixing the day at 10 hours (wages not mentioned)

13th November 1893
Mr Greene re-elected chairman


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22nd January 1894
Rates of 8d and 1/- for water struck

26th February 1894
Greene re-elected chairman for 12 months

7th May 1894
Miss McGuffin got bathing boxes at £7-1-0 Kelly the market house for £6 William McGuffin got horsing water cart at 5/- per day of 8 hours

11 February 1895

Rates of 8d and 1/- for water struck Town clerks salary increased by £10 per year

11th March 1895
Greene re-elected chairman for 12 months no contest for commissionaire

27th May 1895
Miss McGuffin got bathing boxes at £6-0 William McGuffin got horsing water cart at 5/6 per day of 8 hours starting at 7.00am

9th September 1895
“There were 37 licensed hackney cars (22 inside and 15 outside) the municipal boundary for the present year” no more licenses to be issued.

27th January 1896
Rates of 8d and 1/- for water struck

9th March 1896
Greene re-elected chairman

25th January 1897
Rates of 8d and 1/- for water struck

29th March 1897
Greene re-elected chairman
Income for year £903-0-9d expenditure £929-7-8d

12 April 1897
Jetty being erected by Warrenpoint Pleasure Steamer Company at Rostrevor

24th May 1897
Richard Curran got watering cart contract at 6/- per day of 8 hours

24th January 1898
Rates of 8d and 1/- for water struck (the same now for 8 years)
£1 compensation given to Mrs McAnulty for damage to her carriage caused by the watering cart.

14th February 1898
Planting of trees begins in streets


14th March 1898

Greene re-elected chairman

From the yearly report: Income £781-4-7, expenditure £769-2-9

Attendance officer John Kelly stated that the percentage attendance for schools was:

Dromore Road in 1896 was 64.8% and in 1897 was 67.8%
Peter Street in 1896 was 63.7% and in 1897 was 66.3%
Convent School in 1896 was 66.9% and in 1897 was 73.7%

Total on rolls in all these schools on 1st January 1898 was 384

9th May 1898
McGuffin had bathing boxes at £6, Kelly the market house at £6 as before

23rd May 1898
Richard Curran again got water cart at 5/6 per day. He is also to be responsible for any damage he does to property of the town commissioners.

Cars for hackney purposes limited to 52 for 1896

Last meeting was held on the 9th January 1899 before the changeover to the Urban district council Those minutes may be found in the Urban district council thread that will follow this one.


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Excellent Brian, great records.............................


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northbrook wrote:
Excellent Brian, great records.............................


Have to agree with you Northbrook, great records indeed :thumbs: Any more Brian?


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The town commissioners only ran from 1882 - 1899 (as in the title of this post) so there are no more for them - however the UDC took over and the minutes from those meetings are in the UDC thread. I have notes for them up until the early 60's and am posting them as I get them typed up. :-C


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