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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:33 pm 
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Doing a little research into the 1st world war, I found a listing of 2 local men killed action.

THIEPVAL MEMORIAL - Somme:

CAMPBELL, Rifleman, WILLIAM, 18899. 13th Bn. Royal Irish Rifles. 1st July 1916. Age 20. Son of Mrs. Annie Campbell, of Hayess Row. Warrenpoint, Co. Down. Pier and Face 15 A and 15 B


SERRE ROAD CEMETERY No. 2 - Somme

MAHOOD, Rifleman, ALAN EDGAR, 19131. 13th Bn. Royal Irish Rifles. 1st July 1916. Age 18. Son of Samuel and Jane Mahood, of The Square, Rostrevor, Co. Down. XV. F. 8.


http://www.freewebs.com/ballymenaww1/an ... ly1916.htm

If anybody has others feel free to put them in here.


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I compiled these from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14 and from the International War Memorial http://www.wargraves.org.uk/default.asp

Undoubtedly there are many more from the area.

WW1


Alex Taylor Bailey
Unit:
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment:
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 7th May 1915. Son of Rev. Robert Taylor Bailey M.A.

William Campbell
Unit:
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment:
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 1st July 1916

Lieutenant George Alexander Clarke
Unit: 8th Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Lieutenant
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 24th March 1918. Age 24. Second son of Alexander Clarke and Margaret Clarke of Whitworth Road, Dublin. Brother of Thomas Clarke, who also died on service and is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial, France.

Thomas Clarke
Unit:
Service:
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment:
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: May 1916. Age 23

Lieutenant John Forster Elliott
Unit: M.D. Royal Army Medical Corps.
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Lieutenant
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 30th September 1917. Age 50. Son of John Forster Elliott and Hester Charlotte McComb Elliott husband of Norah Nugent Elliott of "The Anchorage Rostrevor, Co. Down. M.D In Old ground, right of gate

Major W H Hall
Unit: Royal Irish Rifles.
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Major
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 17th December 1918. Son of Maj. W. Hall; husband of Mrs. W. Hall of Kellistown Carlow. Born at Narrow-water Co. Down In Old ground right of gate

Samuel Linden
Unit:
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment:
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: B.A. 31st July 1917. Son of Robert and Elizabeth Linden of Warrenpoint.

Private C W Mcgibney
Unit: Leinster Regiment.
Service: Army
Service Number: 5643
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Private
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 2nd February 1919. In Old ground right of gate

Private Reginald David Murray
Unit: 20th Battalion London Regiment.
Service: Army
Service Number: 1991
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Private
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 8th October 1918. In Old ground right of gate

John Robert Newell
Unit: Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry.
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment:
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Locality: County Down
Country: Northern Ireland
Other Details: 30th October 1917. Son of George and Maria Newell.

Robert Woodney
Unit: HMS Natal
Service: Royal Navy
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment:
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 30th December 1915. Son of Robert and Elizabeth Anne Woodney.

Captain William Harald Barker
Unit: Royal Garrison Artillery.
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Captain
Commemorated at: Rostrevor (Knotty Ash) Cemetery
ARI BURNU CEMETERY, ANZAC
Other Details: Age 34. Fatally wounded November
Date of Death: 05/11/1915
Additional information: Only son of William Chichester Barker (Canon of Dromore) and Adelaide Mary Barker, of "Rosina," Rostrevor, Co. Down.


Surgeon Probationer David Henry Ferris
Unit: HMS "Broke" Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve
Service: Royal Navy
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Surgeon Probationer
Commemorated at: Rostrevor (Knotty Ash) Cemetery
Other Details: 31st May 1916. Age 22.

Charles Nugent Macrobert
Unit: South African Scottish.
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment:
Commemorated at: Rostrevor (Knotty Ash) Cemetery
Other Details: Died a Prisoner. 3rd November 1918. Age 21.

Bernard Lascelles Ward
Unit:
Service:
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment:
Commemorated at: Rostrevor (Knotty Ash) Cemetery
Other Details: 24th March 1918. Husband of Winnifred Julia Ward (nee Tomlinson).

Private Fredrick Joseph Maginnis
Unit: 16th Battalion Manchester Regiment.
Service: Army
Service Number: 7643
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Private
Commemorated at: Burren (St. Mary) Roman Catholic Churchyard
Other Details: Drowned from S.S. "Connemara 4th November 1916. Age 23. Son of John and Cecilia Maginnis, of Corrags, Newry Between road and South wall of Church.


WW2

Lieutenant William Desmond Coleman
Unit: 22nd Mountain Regiment Royal Artillery Indian Army
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Lieutenant
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 16th February 1942 at Singapore

Sergeant (Pilot) Isaac Henry Cunningham
Unit:
Service: Royal Air Force
Service Number: 1072712
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Sergeant (Pilot)
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 17th February 1942. Age 21. Son of Isaac and Margaret Cunningham of Burren Sec. 10 Grave 6.

Regimental Sergeant Major William John Cunningham
Unit: 9th Battalion Parachute Regiment A.A.C.
Service: Army
Service Number: 7011364
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Regimental Sergeant Major
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 17th June 1944. Age 32. Son of Isaac and Margaret Cunningham of Burren.

Captain Roger Hall
Unit: Royal Fusiliers
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Captain
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 3rd February 1939.

Chief Engineer Officer Edward Ivan Mccullagh Smith
Unit: S.S.W.C. Teagle
Service: Army
Service Number:
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Chief Engineer Officer
Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: 16th October 1941. Age 38. Son of Robert and Jane Olivia Smith.

Sergeant (Pilot) George Lysaght Hosford Steede
Unit: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Service: Royal Air Force
Service Number: 1063715
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Sergeant (Pilot)
Commemorated at: Rostrevor (Knotty Ash) Cemetery
Other Details: 14th October 1941. Age 21. Son of Dr. Benjamin Hosford Steede M.A. M.D. and of Maude Steede of Belfast Grave A.15


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Private Fredrick Joseph Maginnis
Unit: 16th Battalion Manchester Regiment.
Service: Army
Service Number: 7643
Force Nationality: British Forces
Rank/Appointment: Private
Commemorated at: Burren (St. Mary) Roman Catholic Churchyard
Other Details: Drowned from S.S. "Connemara 4th November 1916. Age 23. Son of John and Cecilia Maginnis, of Corrags, Newry Between road and South wall of Church.]

To read more about the Connemara tragedy, http://www.irishships.com/connemara_tragedy.htm


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Reginald TOOMBS

Pte 164th Company The Machine Gun Corps(Infantry). Killed in action on the Somme 10th September 1916, aged 20. Son of Mrs. S. J. Toombs, of 13, Thomas Street, Warrenpoint, Northern Ireland. Grandson or nephew of George Toombs, Broad Street, Ely. Born Warrenpoint. Enlisted Liverpool. Buried Bernafay Wood British Cemetery F.400.

(from http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Cambridge ... dWar1.html)


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Brian : I noticed an entry in the book "The 1st Royal Irish Rifles in the Great War" by James W. Taylor, concerning Major General Gerald Ion GARTLAN CBE MC JP DL. Born 24 June 1889 Newry Co Down the son of Alexander Gartlan and Emily Hamill of Cabra House Co Down.
There is quite a long passage but I don't want to post it, if it falls outside your catchment area. Stanley


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I remember Major Gartland, he is buried in the vault in front of Cabra Church .................................


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Hello,
I am trying to trace family and have just registered with the forum. I notice you mention local WW1 local fatalities, one of which was William Campbell who was killed in action at the Somme. William is my grandmother's (nee Margaret Campbell)brother, she also had another brother - Thomas - who was wounded at the Somme and died some time later from his injuries.

I recently went to Clonallan Churchyard to try and locate the grave where he is commemorated. Unfortunately I did not find it but I am told it is to the right of the gate along the wall with apparently a small headstone which would have had the "inscriptions" painted on but the family member who would have done this I think is now dead and the wording has long since faded.

I know the family lived at Hayess Row and at some stage some of them lived about The Burren but I am told possibly then moved to Kilkeel. To the best of my knowledge there are no family members still living in Warrenpoint.

Can you tell me exactly when Hayess Row was demolished and where it was situated? - I know it was by the Golf Club but not exactly sure where. Do you know if there are any old photographs.

Thelma.


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Thelma, there is a thread and photo of "Hayes Row" here:

http://www.oldwarrenpointforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=115

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Thelmamill wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to trace family and have just registered with the forum. I notice you mention local WW1 local fatalities, one of which was William Campbell who was killed in action at the Somme. William is my grandmother's (nee Margaret Campbell)brother, she also had another brother - Thomas - who was wounded at the Somme and died some time later from his injuries.

I recently went to Clonallan Churchyard to try and locate the grave where he is commemorated. Unfortunately I did not find it but I am told it is to the right of the gate along the wall with apparently a small headstone which would have had the "inscriptions" painted on but the family member who would have done this I think is now dead and the wording has long since faded.

I know the family lived at Hayess Row and at some stage some of them lived about The Burren but I am told possibly then moved to Kilkeel. To the best of my knowledge there are no family members still living in Warrenpoint.

Can you tell me exactly when Hayess Row was demolished and where it was situated? - I know it was by the Golf Club but not exactly sure where. Do you know if there are any old photographs.

Thelma.


I think this may be what you are looking for, I hope it helps with your search .............................

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Thank you so much for the information and photos, I am amazed that anyone would have a photo of the headstone. I will certainly go back to Clonallan and look for it.
I read someone thought that the cottages at Hayes Row was for the workers at Halls estate and my great grandfather named as a resident, to the best of my knowledge he was head gardener there.

Thankyou again,

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I assume that the John Cambpell who died on September 25th 1972 (according to the Headstone,) was the father of 'young 'Johnny Cambpell, who now lives in Kilkeel. Was Beatrice Campbell who died in on September 11th.1962 the wife old John Campbell? I think she may hailed from Killybeggs, in County Donegal? I will check.
Old Johnny worked for the Hall family for a lifetime.
'Young' Johnny Campbell would be about 86 now, and I bump into him ocassionally, he is still great crack.
As far as I know 'young' Johnny had only one brother Ernie, who passed away about 1975. The late Ernie was married to Mynah Stoops, of Donaghguy, (?), They had one daughter Violet (aprox. 60) and one boy Ernie Jun. (approx. 53 ?), I am not sure if there were any other family members.They also live in Kilkeel.
'Young' Johnny's family are Thomas,(approx. 62), Betty (aprox. 61) Phyliss (aprox. 60), David (aprox.52) and Roger (aprox. 51.) As far as I know all the Campbell family live in the Kilkeel area.
The Campbell family were my neighbours in Forth Avenue here in Warrenpoint for years.
There are photos on this site of members of the Cambpell family. :friends: :friends:


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Dukestreet - I remember the name Ernie Campbell,
and I wonder was he a brother of Sonny Campbell,
who lived in Clonallon Gds in the house
Hughes live in now.
I think they lived there for a couple of years.


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X-paddy you are on the right track. Johnny Campbell was also known locally as Sonny Campbell, I had actually forgotten that name, until you flagged it up. Any of the older generation from around the 'Point, will testify that Johnny/Sonny Campbell was known locally for having a splendid imagination, in fact he was a legendary teller of very tall tales.
And yes Johnny 'Sonny' Campbell's family did live in Clonallon Gardens until 1953 when they moved to the newly built Forth Avenue. In fact they switched houses with Gerry Hughes, who was originally allocated 12, Forth Road. I think the Hughes family previously lived in The Square, (where Rosemary Connolly the Solictor practices today.)

Ernie Campbell and his family lived in a little house on the Burren Road (Upper Dromore Road,) just up past St. Mark's High School. This house/building was reputed to be the original Orange Hall, before the Warrenpoint members of the Orange Order purchased and moved, to their present premises in Great Georges St. about 1925 approximately.

X-paddy I am sure you must remember Ernie Campbell as he worked in Reeds during the 1960's. Ernie was a very small man, but very pleasant and jovial. :dance3: :dance3:


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Dukestreet - I remember Johnny (Sonny) Campbell so
vividly, but Ernie I just can't put a face to him. :-(


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The late Ernie Campbell had another son,a lad called William, who like Violet and Ernie jnr today reside's in Kilkeel. Jimmy Stoop Milltown Street has confirmed to me that the house Ernie and family lived in was the original local Orange Hall. I remember Johnney "Sonny" Campbell's Father either living or visiting the Campbell household at 12 Forth Road in the lates sixties. I have very fond memories of the Campbell family as I along with Fourthroad would have spent a lot of time in and around that house when growing up.... warm,friendly people,great friends and neighbour's.


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The late Ernie Campbell had another son,a lad called William, who like Violet and Ernie jnr today reside's in Kilkeel. Jimmy Stoop Milltown Street has confirmed to me that the house Ernie and family lived in was the original local Orange Hall. I remember Johnney "Sonny" Campbell's Father either living or visiting the Campbell household at 12 Forth Road in the lates sixties. I have very fond memories of the Campbell family as I along with Fourthroad would have spent a lot of time in and around that house when growing up.... warm,friendly people,great friends and neighbour's.


Very true Joneshill in what you said, i am often in touch with Johnney (sonny) Campbells sons David and Rodger, Dukestreet you are also right on thier ages, there is a photo on this forum somewere posted by dukestreet of the campbell brothers along with myself called forthroad door knockers. :--)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:15 pm 
A list of soldiers who died during WW1 who were born in Warrenpoint:

Walter Stewart Bond
Henry Cunningham
Alfred Dougan
Samuel James Glenn
James Irvine
John Lavery
John Lynch
Archibald Lyons
Henry Marshall
Thomas McGivern
Patrick McKenna
John R McKernan
Frank Morgart
James Alfred Rice
David John Robb
John Steenson
George Toombs
Robert Toombs
James Turkington

And likewise for those born in Rostrevor:

James Campbell
William Gwynne
Walter Ralph Hackett
Bernard Harnan
Bernard Strain
George Todd
William Watterson


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Does that wwwirishships only got back to WW2?


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Samuel Linden
Unit:
Service: Army
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Force Nationality: British Forces
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Commemorated at: Clonallan Church Of Ireland Churchyard
Other Details: B.A. 31st July 1917. Son of Robert and Elizabeth Linden of Warrenpoint.

Samuel Linden was a cousin of my grandfather William J Linden. My grandfather also fought in this war but returned safely.
Samuel originally served with the North Irish Horse regiment but laterally served with 90th H.A.C., Royal Garrison Artillery.
He was a second lieutennant and died age 25, leaving a wife Florence Elizabeth Linden 0f 41 Clarendon Street, Derry.
His remains were never recovered but his name is inscribed on Panel 9 of the Menin Gate memorial at Ypres in Belgium.


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When using "Warrenpoint" in the search engine on the ancestry.co.uk website, I found a list of names that have actual records, you need to register and it costs money to use but they have a free trial on at the time of posting, so it may be worth a look if you are interested.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=BritishArmyService&gsfn=&gsln=&msbpn__ftp=warrenpoint&_81004010=

the names as listed were:


John Francis Bond
Thomas Burns
Michael Connelly
Robert John Coulter
Joesph Harris
Robert John McKee
David McKee
Patrick McKeown
Francis Morgan
Henry Rice
William John Sterrett

I assume these have some connection to Warrenpoint, but I have not registered with the site to find out.


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Brian wrote:
the names as listed were:

John Francis Bond
Thomas Burns
Michael Connelly
Robert John Coulter
Joesph Harris
Robert John McKee
David McKee
Patrick McKeown
Francis Morgan
Henry Rice
William John Sterrett

I assume these have some connection to Warrenpoint, but I have not registered with the site to find out.


I'm pretty sure Francis Morgan is a brother of these two men: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1673

He would also be related to forum member "khan".


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Brian wrote:
the names as listed were:

John Francis Bond
Thomas Burns
Michael Connelly
Robert John Coulter
Joesph Harris
Robert John McKee
David McKee
Patrick McKeown
Francis Morgan
Henry Rice
William John Sterrett

I assume these have some connection to Warrenpoint, but I have not registered with the site to find out.


I'm pretty sure Francis Morgan is a brother of these two men: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1673

He would also be related to forum member "khan".


The address given for Francis Morgan in these records is "7 Square, Warrenpoint". However, there is a letter for this address which has been returned to sender because "not known at this address".


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Brian listed some names. Using other searches gets you this fuller list:

John Francis Bond, Warrenpoint
Thomas Burns, Warrenpoint
Robert John Colvin, Warrenpoint
Michael Connelly, Warrenpoint
Robert John Coulter, Warrenpoint
Patrick Cunningham, Rostrevor
Samuel Green, Rostrevor
Joseph Harris, Warrenpoint
John Kane, Warrenpoint
Henry Marshall, Warrenpoint
Patrick McClorey, Rosstrevor
James Joseph McEvoy, Rostrevor
David McKee, Warrenpoint
Robert John McKee, Warrenpoint
Patrick McKeown, Warrenpoint
Francis Morgan, Warrenpoint
Francis Morgan, Warrenpoint
Henry Edward Peers, Warrenpoint
James Lawrence Rentoul, Rostrevor
Henry Rice, Warrenpoint
James Slater, Warrenpoint
William Smyth, Rostrevor
William Steenson, Warrenpoint
William John Sterrett, Warrenpoint


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I just changed the title - the original post was about personnel that had been killed, and the thread morphed at some point (as they all do) so that should remove any confusion.


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Glasgowboy wrote:
bornandbred wrote:
Brian wrote:
the names as listed were:

John Francis Bond
Thomas Burns
Michael Connelly
Robert John Coulter
Joesph Harris
Robert John McKee
David McKee
Patrick McKeown
Francis Morgan
Henry Rice
William John Sterrett

I assume these have some connection to Warrenpoint, but I have not registered with the site to find out.


I'm pretty sure Francis Morgan is a brother of these two men: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1673

He would also be related to forum member "khan".


The address given for Francis Morgan in these records is "7 Square, Warrenpoint". However, there is a letter for this address which has been returned to sender because "not known at this address".


I see there are 2 entries for Francis Morgan in your latest list - the one I referred to lived in Church Lane. He died in France on October 18th, 1918.


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My father and I have been back to Clonallan and found the 'Campbell' grave. He has also shown me the various houses the family have lived in in Warrenpoint and have been to the Presbyterian Church (beside fire station)where the dead of WW1 are commenorated. Have tried to make contact with 'Young' Johnny but anyone that I have spoken to in Kilkeel by phone doesn't appear to know of him. My father is very anxious to make contact but I am getting nowhere fast. Any suggestions?
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Thelmamill wrote:
My father and I have been back to Clonallan and found the 'Campbell' grave. He has also shown me the various houses the family have lived in in Warrenpoint and have been to the Presbyterian Church (beside fire station)where the dead of WW1 are commenorated. Have tried to make contact with 'Young' Johnny but anyone that I have spoken to in Kilkeel by phone doesn't appear to know of him. My father is very anxious to make contact but I am getting nowhere fast. Any suggestions?
Thelma.[


Thelma send me your email and i will put you in touch with Young Johnnys son :--)


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Google: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/33222/33 ... 3222-h.htm

for a fascinating account of THE IRISH AT THE FRONT during World War 1

and of the actions of Victoria Cross recipient, Joseph Toombs of Warrenpoint.


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Glasgowboy, could you give me any scrap of information about these 4 men on the list you provided, anything at all would be invaluable.

Patrick Cunningham, Rostrevor;
Patrick McClorey Rostrevor;
James Joseph McEvoy, Rostrevor;
William Smyth, Rostrevor.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:31 pm 
dukestreet wrote:
Glasgowboy, could you give me any scrap of information about these 4 men on the list you provided, anything at all would be invaluable.

Patrick Cunningham, Rostrevor;
Patrick McClorey Rostrevor;
James Joseph McEvoy, Rostrevor;
William Smyth, Rostrevor.



Sorry, only just noticed your request. Will contact you directly. (Did send a PM, but it won't leave my Outbox . . .)


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