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 Post subject: MCKERNAN SEARCH
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:39 am 
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HI, I AM A GREAT-GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER OF BERNARD MCKERNAN, GRT GRANDDAUGHTER OF JOHN R MCKERNAN WHO WAS KILLED
IN WW1, HIS DAUGHTER ELIZABETH WAS MY GRANDMOTHER WHO DIED IN LIVERPOOL IN 1972. I AM WONDERING IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO BERNARDS YOUNGER CHILDREN FROM HIS 1ST MARRIAGE TO ALICE,WHEN HE REMARRIED CHRISTINA? AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION ON BERNARD AND ALICE ETC WOULD BE GREAT,
MANYTHANKS, MAGGIE


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:18 pm 
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Hi Maggie:
Not sure if you have seen this from 1901 census. In 1911 census Bernard was married to Christina aged 33. Interestingly, Bernard only aged 5 years since the 1901 census. :shocked:
Residents of a house 6 in East Street (Warrenpoint, Down)
McKernan Rosaleen 10 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
McKernan Mary 18 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
McKernan Bernard 58 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
McKernan Patrick 8 Male Son Roman Catholic
McKernan Joseph D 14 Male Son Roman Catholic
McKernan John R 24 Male Son Roman Catholic
McKernan Leo J 12 Male Son Roman Catholic
McKernan Alice 49 Female Wife Roman Catholic

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1911
Residents of a house 6 in Summerhill (Warrenpoint, Down)

McKernan Bernard 63 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
McKernan Christina Annie 33 Female Wife Roman Catholic
McKernan Rosaleen Frances 21 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
McKernan Patrick Francis 18 Male Son Roman Catholic
McKernan Phillip Kernan 3 Male Son Roman Catholic
McKernan Jerome Phelim Male Son Roman Catholic

He was Town Clerk and was born in County Tyrone.

Hope this may be of some help.

Good luck,
Pat


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:17 pm 
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Pat, thanks so much for your reply. I had seen both the 1901 and 1911 censuses, but didnt see the youngest of his children from his 1stmarriage on the 1911 one, only said he had 2 living children, so glad they were ok and were with him. Do you happen to know the cottage in Best Row I have put on forum? I can,t find Best Row on the Warrenpoint maps of old.

Thanks again for your help,

Maggie


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:08 pm 
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Maggie,

In the Pictures Library of the Ulster Museum
there is one of Best's Row, looking toward the
Baths.

Would appear to be part of the current Queen Street.

May be of help.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:23 pm 
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That cottage is not in Best's Row - Allison's photography office was though. Finding the cottage could be a bit difficult but I know there where (and still are I think) McKernan's on the Ryanstown road - might be worth following that line of enquiry?


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:-( Hopefully someone may recognise the beautiful cottage, if it still exists, I was under the impression it was a farm that belonged to my gt Grandmothers family, her maiden name was Bradley, and that it was sold to an Englishman possibly in 1929/1930, my Dad was born in the cottage in 1926.Is there any McKernans in this forum ? it would be nice to share family history.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:28 pm 
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I think a lady named McKernan married a Lavery. They had three children. I will ask someone who will know the history .


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My aunt said this lady was Maureen McKernan.Her brothers were Gerry and Philip. They sold milk. She believes Gerry married Maggie Delahunt. She thinks Philip did not marry.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:05 am 
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Thanks Deidre,thats great. My Grandmother, Elizabeth McKernan aged 2 in the 1911 census was living with her Grandparents, John and Eliza Bradley in Donaghaguy in Warrenpoint rural, does anyone know about them, or the place, as I can,t find it on any maps.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:11 am 
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Donaghy is only up the road from Warrenpoint. Someone will remember.


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The road runs from Milltown Crossroads across to clonallon church, however the lake side road now known as the Burren road on the maps was also once known as the Donaghaguy road - it's just a matter of finding out the way the enumerator walked the road to find house number 21 - and there are not that many houses on the road(s)

I mention that as it seems some of them simply numbered the houses as they walked past, as an example Summer Hill and East Street Warrenpoint - the census numbers started at the first house in East street as number 1 and then went up to the top of summer hill and then back down the other side again meaning the numbers on the forms do not match current numbers (confused yet?)

This Google Earth view shows the road and the lake, with the "Burren" road going towards Burren behind the lake.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.1164019,-6.2507426,1334m/data=!3m1!1e3

So if somebody remembers the family or knows other people living on the road that can trace their family tree back to 1911 that should make it easy to find the house/cottage - we know from the census you mentioned that there was also a farm servant staying there (Edward Duffield born in England) so it's definitely rural and most certainly a farm dwelling we are looking for. Now, again a lot of old cottages and sites have been replaced by new builds but some old ones still remain.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:52 am 
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Maggie

If you can trace which ancestor held the property in the 1860s then the Griffiths Valuation records may help
(see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch. You can search
these by family name, townland, etc., and, once you find a record you are interested in, you can view their
details which include a "map reference" - the number of the property on the map, then view the map to see
where the property was located then. It's also useful for seeing where other ancestors held land at that time.

HTH
Jim


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:44 pm 
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Patrick Francis McKernan (my father's uncle) signed up with the Canadian Over-seas Expeditionary Force in Montreal on 31st August 1918.

The address given on his Attestation Paper was 528 East 150th Street, New York and his Trade or Calling was listed as Munition Worker.

I do not know what became of him after that.

See http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef

His brother, John R. McKernan, had died in France on 29th April 1916, the same day that the rebels surrendered in Dublin.


Brian Francis McKernan
Kilkenny
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:31 pm 
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Hi Maggie. Sorry, a bit late with this reply.

The house pictured in Best Row is in fact the house in Donaghaguy from the census. It was sold by the Bradleys to a Capt. Alcock in 1946, and some years later came into the ownership of Mc Kay, the current owners. The house was altered by Alcock with the addition of dormer windows. It is no longer used as a residence, but is still standing.


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