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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:32 am 
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I am trying to locate any information or records on Ballyclover House around 1872 or earlier. I believe a Sir Arthur Molyneaux lived there.... Would any one on the forum know how to locate records or employee records... This in relation to researching our family history.. My GGreatgrandparents Marriage Cert shows my GGreatgrandmother living there at the time... I believe she was an employee at that time. I have been searching but can't seem to really find anything helpful on Ballyclover.. Oral family history is that my Grandfather was called after Sir Arthur Molyneaux. I think Molyneaux lived there at one time...

Any help would be appreciated.

Maybe Pat Reid may have information. Pat, I know your Grandmother was born in Antrim before the family moved to Warrenpoint. Three children born in Antrim.

Thanks for any help......


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:16 pm 
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Hi there, Deirdre. Sorry, I don't have anything on that at all. ~x(
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:10 pm 
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Hi Deirdre,
I've just had a look at the BNA Newspaper site {British Newspaper Archives}
There is a lot of reference to a Mr Arthur Molynex, Ballyclover winning 1st and 2nd prizes for the best 2 acres of lots of his crops - wheat,oats, potatoes etc. but no mention of the address as being Ballyclover 'House' - dates ranging 1841 - 1853 I've not looked at all of these dates in detail.
Shall try and post two of these references on the site for you after I send this and you can see if they are of any help.
Lynn.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:43 pm 
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Hi Deirdre, I hope these scans are properly attached as I am not used to putting scans on this Forum.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:45 pm 
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If you Left click on the image it enlarges it for you.
Hope these may be of some help.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:12 pm 
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Lynn, thanks so much.. It was very gracious of you to do this. My Greatgrandmother's address was Ballyclover.... I could not find any reference to a townland of this name so I assumed that it was an estate/house..... Deirdre.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:24 pm 
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Yes looks as if that is the connection although this is much earlier than my GGGrandmother's marriage. I hold her Marriage Licence dated 1872. It states they had to be married within three months of the date of issue. Her address was Ballyclover... I must have looked up something and found Ballyclover House as I couldn't find the townland of that name.

Anyhow, now I am wondering would their marriage have been in the Newspaper.. I talked with the vicar of Donegore and Killead Church of Ireland and she told me that she had looked and they were certainly married there..

Married in 1872.. Had three children before moving to Warrenpoint.

Lynn I really appreciate this. thanks again.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:37 pm 
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Deirdre,
Hope you can piece these bits to-gether
If you go to Google Maps and Google - ballyclover
You will find:-
Ballyclover House,
Hollybank Road,
Parkgate,
Ballyclare,
Antrim,
BT39ODP

In the BNA I saw that a John Molyneaux esquire lived there in 1877 so there was a Ballyclover House.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:45 pm 
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http://www.thepeerage.com/i2382.htm#s33847

Here we have Killead mentioned.

Glad to look up a few things with a few ideas.

The Warrenpoint Forum have been very helpful to me with all the research I've been doing there.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:59 pm 
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Lynn,
I think definitely a strong connection. I think she worked at the house and must have had a good experience. She called her youngest my Grandfather after the Owner..... This is oral history. But may not be too far off the mark.. I just love researching but it sometimes frustrates me. I found my Grannies people in Pittsburgh and met them when I lived in the States. Although for this I had much evidence so it so not so hard. Anyhow, again renewed thanks.. D.

James Molyeaux created Baron of Killead I think was an Unionist MP. He may be a connection. Not sure if he is still alive will have to check.......


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:03 pm 
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Pat,

Thanks for the response.. At least I have managed to trace the family back to 1851 at Derrykillultagh. Our GGreatgrandparents... Linda was very helpful in that she told me the townland and I worked from there. Good to hear from you . I keep in contact with Gerry . Hear from Philomena via FB.

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Deirdre


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